Discussion: Botting Risks, Tips and Deletions

[Raphael]

Just to clarify: I don't expect (although it would be great) that you conduct a thorough statistic analysis of the ban, but anything that at least shows your numbers are not completely nonsense. Like, in your numbers you propose 14 out of every 15 accounts banned is free account. Anything that shows that, let's say, more than half of them are free account would support your cause. Completely made up data won't.

[Sub Zero]

I simply think the model is based on data we don't have. It's pure speculation. I've never seen any statistics on this.
And to come and claim this is the "RIGHT" way to see things, when all you have is speculation based on randomly made up data, feels like bullshit to me.

From a statisticians point of view, you can have great data and shit model to run it through, and you can have shit data but a great idea of how to model something. Maybe my Econometrics course has got me thinking too much about statistics xD

[Raphael]

From a statisticians point of view, you can have great data and shit model to run it through, and you can have shit data but a great idea of how to model something. Maybe my Econometrics course has got me thinking too much about statistics xD

Well, you need data to back your model. Else it's just another model.
Just to clarify: I don't expect (although it would be great) that you conduct a thorough statistic analysis of the ban, but anything that at least shows your numbers are not completely nonsense. Like, in your numbers you propose 14 out of every 15 accounts banned is free account. Anything that shows that, let's say, more than half of them are free account would support your cause. Completely made up data won't.

[Sub Zero]

Well, you need data to back your model. Else it's just another model.
Just to clarify: I don't expect (although it would be great) that you conduct a thorough statistic analysis of the ban, but anything that at least shows your numbers are not completely nonsense. Like, in your numbers you propose 14 out of every 15 accounts banned is free account. Anything that shows that, let's say, more than half of them are free account would support your cause. Completely made up data won't.

For a sharp guy like you, I think you would have preferred I build a model and not input any hypothetical data, but only variables. In the end, I call it the right way to THINK about deletions because that is what it is at this point; a model, a way to consider things. I put numbers because for the average tibia player, I don't think they would care to think of things in terms of variables. They prefer to have something they can see and understand quick xD but i still believe a model LIKE THIS ONE is pretty spot on. We can only ever isolate for the most important variables, otherwise there would be infinite things to consider.

The largest problem is response bias. You got people who say they've been banned when the haven't and visa versa. Anyways, I think if more players THINK about it on these terms, it can help them.

[Bernardz]

5/5 accounts deleted since I joined WB

[charles666]

What about using healer only ?

Pd: no hands plox

[RoxZin xD]

5/5 accounts deleted since I joined WB

Oh yeah sure we'll believe a guy with 1 post that didn't even buy bot. Yeah, sure...

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Everyone will be deleted soon, keep botting and sell your accounts while you can! =DDDDDDD

[Bovah]

Oh yeah sure we'll believe a guy with 1 post that didn't even buy bot. Yeah, sure...

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Everyone will be deleted soon, keep botting and sell your accounts while you can! =DDDDDDD

Can you tell me why you think everyone will be deleted soon?

[Sub Zero]

Can you tell me why you think everyone will be deleted soon?

cuz he's a little pessimistic beezy :P

jk <3 roxin.

probably cuz of server merges?

[Bovah]

cuz he's a little pessimistic beezy :P

jk <3 roxin.

probably cuz of server merges?

But what does merging servers have I do with botters gettin deleted?!