Discussion: Botting Risks, Tips and Deletions

[Searax]

Now all I have are 2 accounts - one with main character, with I only play manual and one with 140 bot knight. Accounts has different registrations, different emails. How do you think guys, if I keep botting on this 140 knight, is there a big chance that they will also delete my main? I never transfer gold from bot ek to main char by bank, I always throw it on depot (MC).

[Kamcio]

Now all I have are 2 accounts - one with main character, with I only play manual and one with 140 bot knight. Accounts has different registrations, different emails. How do you think guys, if I keep botting on this 140 knight, is there a big chance that they will also delete my main? I never transfer gold from bot ek to main char by bank, I always throw it on depot (MC).

I think yes, on last month many fair players got deleted ;d

[dedi]

@Cisco @Ozun
Tor ips are blocked from creating accounts

Recently I noticed that new account must to be online to get delete

for eg i make 10 acc with 20x 8 lvl use theme to get reward for noob quest and dont use any longer = still not deleted

but when I bot new ones they are always being deleted during botting, more i say yday i saw half of my chars got delete so i immediately turned off my net and the rest was saved ;p usually they were deleted too after like 15 secs maybe because was created from other ip (you can only make 10 acc from 1 ip for some time)

I doubt they will be safe. Like month-1,5 ago I wanted to start bottando again. I made like 20 chars (different ips) after 10h~ of botting 8 of them got deleted, but rest survived. I didn't login them anymore. 2 days ago I checked if they're still alive or not, cuz I wanted to come back to botando - yesterday all rip (I didn't login at all, just checked names on tibia.com)

[Cisco]

@dedi
Yes tor not of to create

But I believe some are connected delete hunting you are doing.

example happened to me I dexei my salamander hunting character to level 20 and put it on another hunt. The next day, and character level 25 has been eliminated. So I made an account and new character again, but this time he was hunting in rotworm to level 20, then level 25 put it in the same hunt the old character, and survived to level 80 after being deleted.

So I think the antibot tool to work anywhere, but especially between 8 ~ 30 levels.

Recently I made a character and put in ab trolls, usually no more than level 20, because he has no advantage, but this time decided to put the character to train the troll, and he was training level 15-25 and was eliminated. On the same day, I made another account and another character this time not dexei level of spending 20 am this day with the character and are level 30.

Then there is to know for sure how this works the tool. Lost character who kept the money, and I used the flash, did the character of 1-30 without using bot never used and was banished along with the other characters.

[marqs]

@dedi

To kup na allegro po pare zlotych konta z voucherem na 5 dni to nie powinny zostac zbanowane tak szybko bo beda stworzone jakis czas temu zazwyczaj z ip i komputerow ktore nie sa do mass botowania, mam okolo 20 kont z czasow hellgate kazde ma po 20 charow i nadal nie zostaly zbanowane, czasem ich uzywam do eventow (ostatnio np. na event z zao chess boxami). Albo jak jakis twoj znajomy ma jakies konta z low lvlami to popros by ci dal passy do nich

[Ryszard]

@dedi

To kup na allegro po pare zlotych konta z voucherem na 5 dni to nie powinny zostac zbanowane tak szybko bo beda stworzone jakis czas temu zazwyczaj z ip i komputerow ktore nie sa do mass botowania, mam okolo 20 kont z czasow hellgate kazde ma po 20 charow i nadal nie zostaly zbanowane, czasem ich uzywam do eventow (ostatnio np. na event z zao chess boxami). Albo jak jakis twoj znajomy ma jakies konta z low lvlami to popros by ci dal passy do nich

To tak nie działa, ich "system" wykrywa głównie niskie levele w przedziale 20-30 level, i wtedy delete leci z automatu, IP/ID PC czy inne bzdety mają tu mniejsze znaczenie. Co innego jeżeli chodzi o wysokie levele, ale tutaj już ciężko stwierdzić.

The problem is being Dawnport... Many character is being deleted because they start botting from there, is like they are watching every character there, HAHA. Try to get lvl 8 at all your character at dawnport without bot and then start botting... I did that and didnt get any deleted with my two accounts with x4 knights

Not really, I've tested their system, botted 1-8 level on Dawnport, went to main, waited 7-8 days WITHOUT DELETE. When I started botting on mainland, they needed 2 days (always 2 days) to delete every newly created account.

[marqs]

To tak nie działa, ich "system" wykrywa głównie niskie levele w przedziale 20-30 level, i wtedy delete leci z automatu, IP/ID PC czy inne bzdety mają tu mniejsze znaczenie. Co innego jeżeli chodzi o wysokie levele, ale tutaj już ciężko stwierdzić.

Then why all my old accs are not deleted and acc i created in this year dissapeared? :d

[dedi]

@marqs @Ryszard

Ogolem to sadze, że cipsoft ma jakis patent na wykrywanie konkretnych graczy (w sensie osob fizycznych). Cos typu hardware id, czy cokolwiek. Ja na Calvie mialem spora farme (okolo 60-70 charow) - w tym kilka bylo pgowane na inferne (jeszcze wtedy bylo hardcore pvp). Jakos w listopadzie skasowali mi jakos polowe cashmakerow (takie 150-250 lvle), ale czesc przezyla. Odrazu przestalem bocic. Po 2 miesiacach zaczelo sie cos dziac na infernie i wrocilem tam do bocenia troche - jakby ktos byl nie w temacie to mam scrypt na oramond wratha do bocenia na mc - jakies 2kk/h. Ofc na infernie full hate + reporty. Po 5 dniach skasowali mi 330 ed (najnizszy lvl). Znowu zrobilem przerwe od bocenia i jakos w marcu znowu probowalem. Tym razem znowu po 5 dniach delete, ale tym razem juz wszystkie chary (440 rp, 420 ek i 370 ms). Wiec sądze ze Cipsoft najpierw mi skasowal cashmakery a potem tylko jednego maina (najnizszego) jako ostrzezenie. A ze nie przestalem to skasowali mi wszystko.

Jakis miesiac temu mialem do walki 430 msa (na calvie), ktorego planowalem kupic. Powalczylem/pobocilem go z tydzien wszystko bylo ok. Delete dostalem dzien po rozpoczeciu zmiany rejestracji. A aktualnie boce pozyczone main chary (300+ lvle) i wszystko jest ok. Kasuja tylko swiezo pozakladane low lvle.

Co do nowego systemu wykrywania, to według mnie to jest bzdura. Tylko zmienila sie polityka Cipsoftu odnosnie botterow. System jest dalej ten sam, tylko cipsoft sie bardziej zawzial i deletuje wiecej.


@ english part of community
In my opinion Cipsoft got some way to find exact players (as natural person) - smth like hardware id or w/e. Some months ago I had pretty nice farm (around 60-70 chars most lvl 150+) - few of them were mainchars pging for inferna (calva was hardcore pvp back then). In November I lost like half of chars - all got deleted within like 20 mins, but some of them survived - and it was ONLY cashmakers, all mainchars were safe. I stopped botting immediality. After 2 months (end of december) Inferna was getting more active again, so I started to bot there abit - I've a mc script for oramond wrath (dts etc). Ofc on infarna full hate, reports, sneaks etc as I was making insane pg there :P After 5 days I lost ONLY 1 main char (330 ed with not activated voucher) So I took break from botting again. My last try to bot some was like 1,5 month ago. This time cipsoft deleted all my mains at same time - I lost 430 rp, 420 ek and 370 ms (inferna). So in my opinion cipsoft is tracing massive botters. Those 2 first deletes (cashmakers and 1 main) was deleted as warning "stop bot or we fuck all ur chars".

And 2nd story: Like month ago I had access to 430 ms on calva, but I was going to buy it. I was fighting / botting on it for like week and all was fine. It got deleted a DAY after I started changing registration. Now I bot for almost 2 weeks couple of borrowed main chars (300+ lvls) and all is fine.

So in my opion they exactly know who use and who was using bot in past, but before they were choosing manually which char should get deleted and which not. That's why main chars are getting deleted much less often - they want us to keep playing, but without cheating. Their detection tool is still same, but Cipsoft changed their policy abit (before they were random picking few h lvls to scare us), now they want to get rid of massive botters. The only thing they added is auto deletion of low lvls (that's why some months ago we were getting deleted when office was open - now they deleting even in middle of night).

I believe detection tool must adapt to bot. There is one scheme - every bot is almost undetecable at beginning and around 1,5 year they start to massban every single botter. Was like this with elfbot, neobot and now this is happening to Windbot, ibot and xenobot. Sad, sad but true. We need bot with completly new core.

Cheers,
Dedi

[ozzix]

@marqs @Ryszard

Ogolem to sadze, że cipsoft ma jakis patent na wykrywanie konkretnych graczy (w sensie osob fizycznych). Cos typu hardware id, czy cokolwiek. Ja na Calvie mialem spora farme (okolo 60-70 charow) - w tym kilka bylo pgowane na inferne (jeszcze wtedy bylo hardcore pvp). Jakos w listopadzie skasowali mi jakos polowe cashmakerow (takie 150-250 lvle), ale czesc przezyla. Odrazu przestalem bocic. Po 2 miesiacach zaczelo sie cos dziac na infernie i wrocilem tam do bocenia troche - jakby ktos byl nie w temacie to mam scrypt na oramond wratha do bocenia na mc - jakies 2kk/h. Ofc na infernie full hate + reporty. Po 5 dniach skasowali mi 330 ed (najnizszy lvl). Znowu zrobilem przerwe od bocenia i jakos w marcu znowu probowalem. Tym razem znowu po 5 dniach delete, ale tym razem juz wszystkie chary (440 rp, 420 ek i 370 ms). Wiec sądze ze Cipsoft najpierw mi skasowal cashmakery a potem tylko jednego maina (najnizszego) jako ostrzezenie. A ze nie przestalem to skasowali mi wszystko.

Jakis miesiac temu mialem do walki 430 msa (na calvie), ktorego planowalem kupic. Powalczylem/pobocilem go z tydzien wszystko bylo ok. Delete dostalem dzien po rozpoczeciu zmiany rejestracji. A aktualnie boce pozyczone main chary (300+ lvle) i wszystko jest ok. Kasuja tylko swiezo pozakladane low lvle.

Co do nowego systemu wykrywania, to według mnie to jest bzdura. Tylko zmienila sie polityka Cipsoftu odnosnie botterow. System jest dalej ten sam, tylko cipsoft sie bardziej zawzial i deletuje wiecej.


@ english part of community
I'll edit post later and add english version.

Btw did anyone try to make fresh botfarm char on VPS? Or bot from virtual machine atleast.

all posts on forum should be en english, if you want to post in other languages then post the english version at the same time, thanks

[Ryszard]

@marqs @Ryszard

Ogolem to sadze, że cipsoft ma jakis patent na wykrywanie konkretnych graczy (w sensie osob fizycznych). Cos typu hardware id, czy cokolwiek. Ja na Calvie mialem spora farme (okolo 60-70 charow) - w tym kilka bylo pgowane na inferne (jeszcze wtedy bylo hardcore pvp). Jakos w listopadzie skasowali mi jakos polowe cashmakerow (takie 150-250 lvle), ale czesc przezyla. Odrazu przestalem bocic. Po 2 miesiacach zaczelo sie cos dziac na infernie i wrocilem tam do bocenia troche - jakby ktos byl nie w temacie to mam scrypt na oramond wratha do bocenia na mc - jakies 2kk/h. Ofc na infernie full hate + reporty. Po 5 dniach skasowali mi 330 ed (najnizszy lvl). Znowu zrobilem przerwe od bocenia i jakos w marcu znowu probowalem. Tym razem znowu po 5 dniach delete, ale tym razem juz wszystkie chary (440 rp, 420 ek i 370 ms). Wiec sądze ze Cipsoft najpierw mi skasowal cashmakery a potem tylko jednego maina (najnizszego) jako ostrzezenie. A ze nie przestalem to skasowali mi wszystko.

Jakis miesiac temu mialem do walki 430 msa (na calvie), ktorego planowalem kupic. Powalczylem/pobocilem go z tydzien wszystko bylo ok. Delete dostalem dzien po rozpoczeciu zmiany rejestracji. A aktualnie boce pozyczone main chary (300+ lvle) i wszystko jest ok. Kasuja tylko swiezo pozakladane low lvle.

Co do nowego systemu wykrywania, to według mnie to jest bzdura. Tylko zmienila sie polityka Cipsoftu odnosnie botterow. System jest dalej ten sam, tylko cipsoft sie bardziej zawzial i deletuje wiecej.


@ english part of community
I'll edit post later and add english version.

Btw did anyone try to make fresh botfarm char on VPS? Or bot from virtual machine atleast.

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