@Jesseh @vetek most of scripts are randomized.
if your script are with "nodes" and you put in Node Range in "2 ~ ∞" , hardly your bot go walk everytime on the same SQM.
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@KrusT that's not really randomized, I mean some actions are bot-like.
For an example, I released a RP behe edron script yesterday. I think there are over 50 lines only at depot. Why? because the bot assign randomly one floor of edron depot to go, and even in that floor, the char can Stand in basically all SQM, and then go to a random depot chest. Each stairs going down the depot has 3 SQM's, most scripts would always go to the same SQM when going up/down, always. A human doesn't do that, a human sometimes take the middle sqm, sometimes the left, sometimes the right. You would like to assign a random sqm each time you go up/down stairs.
Most of the scripts also hunts non-stop, people start the bot and them logout after some hours of hunting/buying/depositing, there is no pause in the middle of hunt, that means you don't need to go to bathroom, or to eat or to browse web, etc. Why not insert some random pauses?
Things like that can be easily implemented, but if CIP really wants to they can ban you, because a bot doesn't has a human behaviour.
I think hard randomizing can be a way to minimize deletes, based on a published article for WoW, maybe it isn't the most reliable thing, but for now we don't have much info on how deletes are really being done
@Jesseh for how bot mains, they can do this. But for a massbotter, the biggest thing is put all with node and put node range 2~4 for dont walk on the same sqm everytime.
and make new accs kkkkk
Ok this is weird, i use windbot 8 month ago... i got at least 40 accounts and until one week ago everything was good but now, every day i got deleted on at least one account, so i guess there is a problem with the windbot! Somebody with the same problem??? i already lost over 10 accounts! :S and everyday they delete one more !
Same like me. Deletions started after Double Exp & Skill week. I was botting like 1+ year without single delete, now every new account which I made is deleted max after 3 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by flanesito
Oh, yeah... the problem is surely the bot, hue!Quote:
Originally Posted by flanesito
lost 160ed on morta, botted 5-6h each day on different spawns :D
just wondering guys, any of you are theyrs costumer? i mean any of you already paid by yourself them? i was botting few months ago and losted all chars except that one i used to buy scrolls(with reall money). all boted on same script same palce different servers - spot occupied 24/7 where are only 6 dragons:D i raported myself on acc i used to buy scrolls with other char and raport was proceed and no delete. just consider it
for sure if you buy somthing for rl money on that account , you have more chance to not be deleted but still many ppl got delete but not soo much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mateuszp
i bought nick change and 2 days after deleted :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Mateuszp
My very first deleted char was my main ED, on which I always buyed Premium Time with real cash and via Tibia website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mateuszp
In fact, there was a couple of scrolls to be used on it!
Wait, who told you that? I guess you did NOT get my sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvzin
Doesn't matter if you buy prem for real money or by premium scrolls since even if you buy premium scrolls for ingame gp Cip still profit just as much.
Ignore that, mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Karmazyn
I quoted the wrong guy, HAHAHA!
xD
Edit: got it fixed now, hue!
quick question, tibia are under attack DDOS? on last 2~3 days i'm are full lag.
Here is weird sometimes have 2 online accounts with a ping with 90 ~ 150, the other 150 ~ 500 (sometimes) when I open the third to the ping is equal to the first and second ping remains so for most and all in the same world. So do not understand. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by KrusT
This is when sometimes not so 3 online accounts, the first ping 30 ~ 150, the second ping 500 ~ 3000, and the third you just log into the game with ping 30 ~ 150. So honestly do not understand. :confused:
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Aqui é esquisito às vezes tem 2 contas online com uma com ping 90 ~ 150, a outra 150 ~ 500 (às vezes), quando eu abro a terceira conta o ping está igual da primeira e a segunda o ping continua do mesmo jeito para maior e tudo no mesmo mundo. Então não entendo. :eek:
Isso quando não é às vezes assim 3 contas online, a primeiro ping 30 ~ 150, a segunda ping 500 ~ 3000, e a terceira que acabou de logar no jogo com ping 30 ~ 150. Então sinceramente não entendo. :confused:
Probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrusT
I'm running only 4 accounts this week and I'm getting disconnected oftenly.
That's what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karmazyn
I activated 2 vouchers during double exp week.
Took 373 - 391 within the time and then I got deleted.
And let me tell you, this is the first account ever being deleted in 5 years of botting.
Either I gained too much exp, or Oramond Towers is a hotspot to get deleted? Idk...
Peace, have a nice day! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pvzin
Honestly - no clue :p They deleted all my FACC's (Orc Fortress, Rotworms (Fibula), Minotaurs (Mintwallin), Coryms, Trolls) in 3-4 days. Every new account which I made is deleted after 1-2 days right now. I guess that CipSoft finally (unfortunately) started fighting with bots :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypto
hm, others bots ? xeno, ibot ? its this same problem ? anybody know ?
How many of the deleted accs got Tibia Authenticator on?
Prolly same result :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Khirshan
same, even ppl who don't use bot getting deleted for example re-sellers: tibiawt.pl (zlotowinfo) and few more, seems Cipsoft focused on "bigger" botters/sellers and mass botters, nowdays botting on Dawnport == very very very high chance to get deleted, I even did Eli on "Chrona", "Morta" etc few days ago, did one dawnport manually! and get deleted on that account :P In my opinion there's no any advanced system to detect botters, just "customer support emplyers" finally go to work :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Khirshan
I just have been banned while i was playing manually!!.. 3x accounts banned in less that 3 days and i just bought my premmiun... insane
:/ weird thing is that the chars im botting with bbot keeps alive until now, both are botting on the same vps! so... the windbot admins should take a look on the engine!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli Scripts
You guys ought to pay more attention to Jesseh. More human-like scripts is the way forward, standard node randomization is easy to see through (not saying that's what they're actually doing though). However, outsmarting CIP's heuristics isn't the only way to combat deletions. By making your scripts more respectful towards other players you can greatly reduce the amount of reports you receive. Don't steal other people's monsters, chat a little with them if they speak to you, perhaps you should even leave the spawn and logout if you see another player in there.
Well, i was botting since january 2014, 0 accs deleted. Got 1-290 ms, 1-200 ek, 1-210 rp, 1-120 ek, 1-70 rp, 1-160 ed, botting them about 5-12h per day, everyday im changing my IP, propably i got a few reports on rp whos botting oramond mino and ek hive surface, but still without delete :cool:
and btw when im getting free/paid script im changing a few waypoints, special areas
again my new acc deleted ;d after 2 night of botting activated voucher didnt help :D
In my opinion this won't help at all, for me their "detection tool" are just 2 group of ppl.Quote:
Originally Posted by shAdOwArt
First is checking reports in game, its rly easy to detect any botter, for example by adding to game new type of firebomb, its invisible, dont make any dmg but got new item id, so after throw it under player bot going to stop, even for person watching his screen that would end up like "freez", one of many easy solutions to detect botters without complicated software.
Second group is just scanning new created accounts, checking ip's / hardware of pc, and trying to take down ppl from their "hunted list", so mass botters, wt services, ppl with big stocks etc, thats why group of ppl is getting deleted right after creating new acc's, even if they are done manually! when others botting for years and they are fine
Ye if your new accounts is getting deleted after 1 day its because of IP/hardware ID/ or from what IP the account is created, if you are online on many clients at the same time from same IP/hardware ID etc. CIP going ham on mass botters now.
but if you dont steal monsters etc you dont get any reports for them to look at. also those firebombs etc doesnt exist but could probably be done yes. also many ppl have been deleted even if they are not getting any reports, so its probably both IP (for the bot farmers) and also their auto-detection system (which probably checks for simillar walking patters, either compare with diffrent players or check if the same player seem to go in the exakt same pattern all the time). in the later its gonna help really much with randomize scripts. if you only think for 1 second you will realise that its ofc gonna help with randomize the scripts. because the bot will go more human-like = less bot-like = less chance to be deleted.Quote:
Originally Posted by tibiastore
Eli start make new scripts or edit old ones to more randomize sqms :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli Scripts
Anyone has this? I use it on my acc, as a legit player who doesn't wants tk hacked, using mmy cellphone to authenticate. This means I will never use a reconnect script, how about you guys who doesn' Bot 50+ chars? This is another level of "registering accs" and might give casual botters another layer of protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesseh
By the way making more randomized wpts isnt hard, if you already have the base for a city you only change the spawn spot with options to go to/back and special areas that can be a bit random too.
lost my 130ish main ek today which is on a 10 years old account, been botting plenty of MC chars along while on my main, had a pause only botting noob chars and yesterday decided to bot my main. Changed ip, no mc, logged on morning and botted/quested/fighting, randomized the day and night time while botting I got delited. lost about 10 accounts last week but I thought I would be safe on my main char, at least for a bit longer (been back playing tibia for 2 months after 7 years break)
It seems once you get deleted you are doomed at that computer as they will investigate every char coming from that hardware. Maybe switch pc or change hardware id/ format pc etc and see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebravbg
exactly my first thought, but then i though, hold on, what if i.e ive got a brother and we sharing computer.. wouldnt be fair to just go by IP and hardware ID.. although, they might have extra interest in people who played on a cheating IP/ID... Beh, cant change pc or harwares, quite good specced laptop.. although i might look into trying virtual machine if that could help hiding my hardware ID, anyone using VM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesseh
Next account deleted omfg day after day i have less accounts soon i will have 0 cuz ever new one that i make is deleted max after 2 days ;d SOO You guys know what will happen ? :D 0 accounts = bye bye Tibia :D
They're not that harsh. You can get deleted a few times and you'll be no worse off. Eventually they will investigate you of course, but a single deletion is not enough. I've lost 5 accounts this month, but I can still do stuff like train on mad sheeps and run extremely repetitive scripts as long as I stay away from other players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesseh