Softboots are a waste of time and money - Legendary thread by Wesker

i've seen TONS of high level players using sofboots this is anoying, and it riddles me, why will you use softboots if you dont have time to use the mana generated by them and your spamming spells ?


knights hunting ghastly dragons with softboots - youre a joke.

mages hunting in banuta spamming waves - you should be deleted if your using softboots

paladins spamming exevo and using softboots - well we know paladins they just love to waste and try to be a mage wannabe's op


people open your eyes the only reason softboots are worth being used is if the amount of mana per second can help you with at least 50% of the spell mana required example :

knights hunting mutated humans

mages hunting crystal spiders (running btw)

paladins on helheim (and you dont even need softboots)


Now let the spam begin, for everyone that believes they do more profit or stay a longer time with softboots without thinking about the facts, ill love to see those 50 pages again LOL



softboots - 2 MP / sec

i walk over 10 seconds = 20 MP <<<<< 10 seconds without damage or enought health to receive one and heal, why whould you use softboots if you using just 2 MP when your spamming spells, seriusly that shit, is crazy talk.

kill urself

//Edit: You're & Being*

not this again.

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Originally Posted by BUgWT

not this again.

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you know you love it <3

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Originally Posted by Moe

kill urself

//Edit: You're & Being*

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i love u moarz nawz

I'm always saying this to my friends. LOL It's ridiculous to see 500+ mages (or any vocation) using soft boots and there's plenty of them using.
I mean 200+ players doesn't need it anymore but when I see a high level character using them :(. It makes me sad.

I'd use it only when making runes, back in the days.
And combining it with RoHs / Life Rings, of course.

Still, let people use it as they like it!
Can't care less about this...

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Originally Posted by Wesker

Now let the spam begin, for everyone that believes they do more profit or stay a longer time with softboots without thinking about the facts, ill love to see those 50 pages again LOL

softboots - 2 MP / sec

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Off-Topic:
When you are trying to make a troll post / thread to make people upset and post replies etc, you shoudn't clearly state that it is a troll post cause then people won't bother replying seriously :P

OnT: Soft boots being waste of time & money? lolwut.
Soft boots saves you money and time is something you can plenty of.

Not gonna bother to reply more serious that that as looking at all of your previous posts / replies to other people all you do is make up tons of random points that has nothing to do with anything and then claim yourself as the victor of the argument ^.^.

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Originally Posted by Rose

Off-Topic:
When you are trying to make a troll post / thread to make people upset and post replies etc, you shoudn't clearly state that it is a troll post cause then people won't bother replying seriously :P

OnT: Soft boots being waste of time & money? lolwut.
Soft boots saves you money and time is something you can plenty of.

Not gonna bother to reply more serious that that as looking at all of your previous posts / replies to other people all you do is make up tons of random points that has nothing to do with anything and then claim yourself as the victor of the argument ^.^.

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i already won.

if you cant understand why they are a waste, its not my fault, my argument is flawless i won by default, people using softs and spamming spells are just newbies, and you are just one of the bunch, try to argue that, i dont see how your going to win that argument

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Originally Posted by giovani

I'm always saying this to my friends. LOL It's ridiculous to see 500+ mages (or any vocation) using soft boots and there's plenty of them using.
I mean 200+ players doesn't need it anymore but when I see a high level character using them :(. It makes me sad.

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i seen some stupid shit, but that 700 ek hunting with exori gran and softboots just cracks me up

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Originally Posted by Wesker

i already won.

if you cant understand why they are a waste, its not my fault, my argument is flawless i won by default, people using softs and spamming spells are just newbies, and you are just one of the bunch, try to argue that, i dont see how your going to win that argument

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Since I feel good today, ima argue with you just for the lols.
First of all, how is your argument" flawless" when you don't have anything supporting it? I mean stating that "softboots is waste of money and time" is kind of like saying: "Obama sucks, end of story" without explaining why.
I would like to see any kind of "proof" that proves that soft boots are a waste of money.

Pulling shit out of your arse and calling it facts ain't really gonna win u any arguments.

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Originally Posted by Rose

Since I feel good today, ima argue with you just for the lols.
First of all, how is your argument" flawless" when you don't have anything supporting it? I mean stating that "softboots is waste of money and time" is kind of like saying: "Obama sucks, end of story" without explaining why.
I would like to see any kind of "proof" that proves that soft boots are a waste of money.

Pulling shit out of your arse and calling it facts ain't really gonna win u any arguments.

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im feeling good today so ill link you the facts HERE

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Originally Posted by Wesker

im feeling good today so ill link you the facts HERE

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"mages hunting in banuta spamming waves - you should be deleted if your using softboots"
"knights hunting ghastly dragons with softboots - youre a joke."

Such facts, much informative, wow.

"i walk over 10 seconds = 20 MP <<<<< 10 seconds without damage or enought health to receive one and heal, why whould you use softboots if you using just 2 MP when your spamming spells, seriusly that shit, is crazy talk."

Idk wtf this is suppose to say, maybe if you re-phrase it, it will make some sense but for now it's just gibberish lol.

And you're also forgetting that soft boots regenerates both hp and mana.

If I were Mod I would ban you, just to make you stop posting these silly threads. I'm way too curious to not read them, but they always frustrate me when I see your arguments or what so ever. Please, stop doing this.

I guess you failed math in pre-school.

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I knew why everyone hates you and I don't, SOFT BOOTS AGAIN! HAHAHAHAH

@topic
yes soft boots is awesome to make profit... sitting inside depot, using market

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Originally Posted by RoxZin xD

I knew why everyone hates you and I don't, SOFT BOOTS AGAIN! HAHAHAHAH

@topic
yes soft boots is awesome to make profit... sitting inside depot, using market

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question tho i dont doubt some1 will try this but.....

can you regen mana with softboots in dp ?

i love this thread if i could ill psot it everywhere :D


edit : i got what u did there took me a while tho LOL funny as fuck congratz u got me XD

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Originally Posted by CroiX

I guess you failed math in pre-school.

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interesting 2 mp per second profit op

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Originally Posted by Rose

"mages hunting in banuta spamming waves - you should be deleted if your using softboots"
"knights hunting ghastly dragons with softboots - youre a joke."

Such facts, much informative, wow.

"i walk over 10 seconds = 20 MP <<<<< 10 seconds without damage or enought health to receive one and heal, why whould you use softboots if you using just 2 MP when your spamming spells, seriusly that shit, is crazy talk."

Idk wtf this is suppose to say, maybe if you re-phrase it, it will make some sense but for now it's just gibberish lol.

And you're also forgetting that soft boots regenerates both hp and mana.

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you're right lets stop using spells .5 hp per second is enought, softboots are a miracle worker, how i didnt see this @_@

text in bold just cracks me up 10 seconds without damage in banuta good luck with that LOL, the faster you ran the more damage you can receive in less time

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Originally Posted by broedrost

If I were Mod I would ban you, just to make you stop posting these silly threads. I'm way too curious to not read them, but they always frustrate me when I see your arguments or what so ever. Please, stop doing this.

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if its silly, ill assume you already knew using softboots its a waste of money, then again people cant think for themselfs

Soft boots give you steady mana and costs 35gp per 100 mana whilst Mana pots give you 50gp per 100mana. You get instant gratification from manas, while soft boots pay over time.

While you do not see instant gains with it, for mages who have low cap, its worth the extra 28800 mana over four hours, plus the 7200 HP. Giving them longer botting periods over a longer amount of time, its worth it to any vocation over extended stays really.

Obviously you're an idiot, as I've pointed out in other threads, and someone should just go ahead and ban you for being an idiot.
That being said, until you can prove mathematically that softboots are a waste/per gp, I wont respond to you, just for being an idiot.....

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Originally Posted by Orexx

Soft boots give you steady mana and costs 35gp per 100 mana whilst Mana pots give you 50gp per 100mana. You get instant gratification from manas, while soft boots pay over time.

While you do not see instant gains with it, for mages who have low cap, its worth the extra 28800 mana over four hours, plus the 7200 HP. Giving them longer botting periods over a longer amount of time, its worth it to any vocation over extended stays really.

Obviously you're an idiot, as I've pointed out in other threads, and someone should just go ahead and ban you for being an idiot.
That being said, until you can prove mathematically that softboots are a waste/per gp, I wont respond to you, just for being an idiot.....

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since your clearly an idiot + ashole im going to point you into the light

28800 mana over four hours

clearly mistaken because you wont ever get that amount of mana therefor your argument and math is not just wrong its stupid and im going to be polite since your brain is a little bit special.


288000 mana the only posible way you will obtain that amount of mana is if you have 28800 mana and sit on softboots until you fill that amount, again this is something that it takes some brain cells, so you need to consider and think for your self.


am i getting 28800 mana over time ? is this true ? or am i getting 2-4 mp per second


lets do a clear example, lets say your hunting orshabals in a secret respawn, lets agree that orshabaal hits per second 1k hp lets say you can heal that amount in exura vita just to be clear as water with a total mana of 1k


so :

1 second softboots = 2 mp
1 second orshabal = 1000 hp
1 exura vita = 160 mp

so every second i receive 2 mana from softs and i have to use 160 mana each second to keep me alive

total mana = 1000
1 second = 160 - 2

1000/ (160-2) = 6.3 seconds and 1k mana its over, bye bye, adios

if your smart or consider your self smart, then you will start using pots at 50% mana so in 3 seconds your already using pots and using 6 mp from sooftboots

now ask your self how much did i gain from softboots if im using (160mp spell*3 seconds) - 6 mp from softs 474 mana with softs 480 mana without them.


now even if your so damn stupid to not follow this example, lets assume your eating food or u got roh, or roh and softboots, hell even with all of them, mana potions give you a random amount of mana, the only thing that is going to help you at a hunt is the amount of mana that will give you, therefor 158 mana per exura vita or 160 doesnt matter your still drinking potions at the fucking speed of light, they might give you more or less mana but when we count that amount of mana per second the only way your gaining mana is the way to depot and refill, if you cant agree to that.

sorry your that fucking stupid.


if i was your sponsor ill drop you right ahead, i cant sponsor stupid players

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Originally Posted by Orexx

Soft boots give you steady mana and costs 35gp per 100 mana whilst Mana pots give you 50gp per 100mana. You get instant gratification from manas, while soft boots pay over time.

While you do not see instant gains with it, for mages who have low cap, its worth the extra 28800 mana over four hours, plus the 7200 HP. Giving them longer botting periods over a longer amount of time, its worth it to any vocation over extended stays really.

Obviously you're an idiot, as I've pointed out in other threads, and someone should just go ahead and ban you for being an idiot.
That being said, until you can prove mathematically that softboots are a waste/per gp, I wont respond to you, just for being an idiot.....

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To this topic I'll answer seriously because he's right. On lower levels, yes softs help A LOT. After 200, it's waste. Try it yourself. Run 1 stamina on a spawn that you don't depend on luck to profit with soft boots, make it increase the soft boots waste on all refills (if you want, include boat also). Profit is, if not the same thing or even lower, nothing more than 0,5k/h more. And it also decreases exp, since you walk a bit slower than what you would with boh, for example. I used softs a lot and after a few weeks I just realized I wasn't doing that much profit and losing time going to Venore every 4h, so I just stopped and the profit was the same thing and I was doing more exp, try it on your own and you'll agree, I guess.

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Originally Posted by RoxZin xD

To this topic I'll answer seriously because he's right. On lower levels, yes softs help A LOT. After 200, it's waste. Try it yourself. Run 1 stamina on a spawn that you don't depend on luck to profit with soft boots, make it increase the soft boots waste on all refills (if you want, include boat also). Profit is, if not the same thing or even lower, nothing more than 0,5k/h more. And it also decreases exp, since you walk a bit slower than what you would with boh, for example. I used softs a lot and after a few weeks I just realized I wasn't doing that much profit and losing time going to Venore every 4h, so I just stopped and the profit was the same thing and I was doing more exp, try it on your own and you'll agree, I guess.

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you forgot to add : hes always right ;D

just a head's up kuz u ma friendzzzzzzzzz <3

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im going to explain some shit further ......


theres 4 kinds of posts im going to make on every single forum that im on.


1.- trolling posts (something R loves to argue ;) )
2.- bugs (if its somethign program related)
3.- content posts (like this 1)
4.- comment posts (which can became 1 or 3 or just random greetings depends)


sad people i am really sad you didnt notice this whole time :/

I wish someone would just ban you already, and you contract Lou Gehrig's disease.

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Originally Posted by Orexx

I wish someone would just ban you already, and you contract Lou Gehrig's disease.

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your brain is shutting down please just

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first thing he does is insult and throw stupid shitty arguments, then i bitchslap the fuck out of him, returns with more shit OMG LOL, just so you know, your stupid retarded shit cost me a warning, congratz raphael has his revenge now :/, people need to grow the fuck up lol

RoxZin is right imo.

item...amount....per (s)..amount..per (s).....life (s)..cost...total mp...total hp....cost per mp.....cost per hp....value in mp per charge..profit per over mp....profit
softs......12...........6.........3..........6.... ......14400..10000...28800......7200...........0.3 47.............1.389..........14400............... ...........4400....................1100

7200 hp gained/150 hp per small hp pot*45gp per hp pot= health gained worth 2160


profit per hr for wearing softs is 3.26k. however you have to consider the extra damage taken due to not wearing boots (probably guardian or depth).
that number is difficult to quantify, but i expect the guardian/depth boots will save more money than the soft boots gain.

I agree with RoxZin, at lower levels the damage reduction from regular boots probably doesnt add up to what the soft boots gain (making softs better), but at higher lvls (more difficult hunting) the damage reduction is more valuble (making regular boots better).


EDIT: ahh darn i had that table layed out all nice...

Oh no... here we go again...

interesting no1 fight this time lol

lol?

The mana when you'r using soft boots keeps regenerating, and this with 10 hours, 20 hours, 500hours of hunt, do an difference. Doesn't matter if you'r spamming potions or not, the soft keeps healing. You can't see the accumulative mana, but in a lot of hours of hunt, its really better. lol.

You just need to Count body.

Mage Exemple. (Spamming 10000 mana potions on 4hours of hunt)

Spamming 10000 mana potions (arrount 100mp/pot) = 1000000 mana regenerated.
Spamming 10000 mana potions (arrount 100mp/pot) = 1000000 mana regenerated + soft boots (arrount 38400mp in 4 hours)

Thats 38.4k EACH 4hours of hunt. In one day, you get 230k... Can you think about 1 week? 1 year?

Did you ever think that CipSoft will not create an item like soft boots to be a waste of time and money right?

Think what you want, do what you want.

yeap, i think i just got cancer.

Guhb, why?? Tell me why?? I am crying!

240 minutes=14400 seconds
2mp per 1 second, so
soft boots gives EXACLY 28800 mana.
One mana potion gives ABOUT 100 mana, so
28800/100=288, but
one mana potion costs 50gp, so
288*50=14400(gp).
Refill of soft boots costs EXACLY 10000, so
14400gp-10000gp=4400gp.
4 hours gives u ABOUT 4400 gp of profit.(mana)
We can add 600 gp for hp just for fun. In my server I have to refill soft boots about ONE HUNDRED and TWENTY times to start having profit. That's 480 HOURS or 20 DAYS.
Cry is free, oh no u got 1k/h profit ;]]

Oh.. I forgot! You are also losing place for your bunnyslippers!

What should be used as a mage instead then, if not soft boots?

hahahaha

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Originally Posted by dessoux

Guhb, why?? Tell me why?? I am crying!

240 minutes=14400 seconds
2mp per 1 second, so
soft boots gives EXACLY 28800 mana.
One mana potion gives ABOUT 100 mana, so
28800/100=288, but
one mana potion costs 50gp, so
288*50=14400(gp).
Refill of soft boots costs EXACLY 10000, so
14400gp-10000gp=4400gp.
4 hours gives u ABOUT 4400 gp of profit.(mana)
We can add 600 gp for hp just for fun. In my server I have to refill soft boots about ONE HUNDRED and TWENTY times to start having profit. That's 480 HOURS or 20 DAYS.
Cry is free, oh no u got 1k/h profit ;]]

Oh.. I forgot! You are also losing place for your bunnyslippers!

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You're right.

Stupid discussion. 4 Hours using soft boots having 10k of profit only? wastin' my time goin' to venore to refill it? useless. thx.

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Originally Posted by Fvokilla

Stupid discussion. 4 Hours using soft boots having 10k of profit only? wastin' my time goin' to venore to refill it? useless. thx.

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I see wesker is back with a sub-user =D