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As title says. I have been scammed by norberelamoo. I have bought 370+RP from him for 290Euro . Payment was sent by PayPal (transfer as for friend/family). After +- one month (1 day left to reg change) account was hacked. I have not got RK from seller so it is clear.
Regards
Please provide screenshots of all proof. @norberelamoo anything to add?
Yes, I have something to say, after few days over the month he says that I hacked him, he could even get hacked by another person,
And after those days he has waited to make scam report, If you have been scammed you do the report the same day not after 4 or 5.
I didnt do that so I could help as much as you want to prove I didnt do that.
Regards.
I belive that Moderator can see all conversation by PM. I have not got Rec-Key from norberelamoo so only he was able to hack me since to change registration I had few days left. From where you know that I was hacked 4-5 days before? Because it is your job. @ozzix should I make screenshot of payment and pm's from inbox? @norberelamoo maybe just give me Rek-Key to solve problem?
No we can not read PMs unless they are reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irix
And yes you should either post or pm SS of conversations and payments, else there is nothing we can do
if baught / traded a few chars with norber and no issues and been over 3 months.
hes trusted by me
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Like I have said. I have not got rec key. Noone have access to my passwords. I'm using char only to team hunt on navi script and only this account was hacked...
I think, as you said you got hacked 1 day before registration change(04/10/2016) and I assume you did that from the first day(05/10/2016) of deal, like every one should do, so if you make maths this is 4 days(04/11/2016 + 4 days = yesterday) before you made the report.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irix
It does not change thing that you had recovery key and you have used it. IF you want to be fair send me R-key and I will change reg details and we have clear situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by norberelamoo
I dont have r-key so I cant send you that, it was not me who hacked youQuote:
Originally Posted by Irix
mmm recover it with email ?
Would be great if @norberelamoo will even try to recover it by email. Seller taken responsibility of selling char so he should have access to email or rec key.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teteraxd
if he sell to you without RK, do you know the email of the account ? i mean does he gave to you the email? in the case he didnt ... do you remember the email of the account (if you remember it, you can try to put recover pass to the email so you gonna look if the hacker change the email it was hacked by RK).Quote:
Originally Posted by Irix
No, I have not got email from him. Also do not remember email address what was there...
so if he hasnt the rk, he should have the email coz it is the only option to recover the password. try hard and good luckQuote:
Originally Posted by Irix
You didnt even ask of wich kind of info came the character, I said to you on messages to use middleman and you didnt wanted to...Quote:
Originally Posted by Irix
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I made some Middleman serivces for @norberelamoo and never was any issues ;o maybe you get hacked by someone ? @norberelamoo can you recovery char by RK and sent him money back ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Teteraxd
No, I can't recover it, may be he has char registered under his data it and that is what he want, he made the report over one month so he could be able to change datas...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dworak
I dont know what to do, what to think...
But I ensure it was not me who did that
@Irix you have any proof that he scammed you ?? you could get hacked or smth too, maybe it was your fault and now you want put it as fault of seller?
If I would be hacked like 10 other chars would be hacked too. I have bought a lot of chars here and had no problem with any of them - Freez was the one from whose I have bought at least 5 chars. Only this one was hacked and now I'm pretty sure that he or previous owner who had r-key. It is sick to sell account and do not know anything about it. Fact is that that I would like to receive this char back. I do not want money just this char.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dworak
We should had done this with middle man and we wont have this kind of problem... it doesnt mean you have to get hacked on all chars... you can just get hacked in one char it can be done by some phishing attack or what ever...Quote:
Originally Posted by Irix
anyways. if u sell a char you should have at least the email of the account. if you havent the RK.Quote:
Originally Posted by norberelamoo
Its not the reply, i can say same i made like 3-4 deals with Norber without problems and all was fine so this i reason to say someone is scammer ? In my opinion you should post soome proofs or this report is without sense, you had time to change reg and order rkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irix
It is funny that I was hacked (5.11.2016) directly 1 month after payment (5.10.2016) with no chance to accept account address details. Isn't it strange? And because of that I'm 100% sure that he hacked this account back.
Funny is that at the first time you said you were hacked one day before the month, now you say day 5 was the day you got hacked, and you posted the report day 8 (3 days after the month of deal), this is funny...you had time to accept it and to order new rk...Quote:
Originally Posted by Irix
I have done a lot of deals and with 0 problem and then you are trying to call me scammer when I didnt hack you, as I say I think you still have the account...
Regards
To be honest no matter if he got hacked day after/before it, there should be some recovery details to account (recovery key/email), so should be easy to verify if he got hacked or completed registration change,
even he complete it and order new key, he would not be able to get it that fast in his home,
so this deal is fail since 1day and biggest mistake was starting it and paying for account without full recovery details
great idea :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tibiastore
as I said to him I offered to use middle man service... but he didnt wanted toQuote:
Originally Posted by tibiastore
in that case! isnt your fault. how now i know this. im with you jajajaj xd coz if you offered it and he didnt accept then is his faultQuote:
Originally Posted by norberelamoo
the problem it's not use or use middleman the problem is @Irix paid for a character and who have email or rk it's @norberelamoo so if you can't be hacked you can make this post for nothing, and i sold many character to @Irix and i never make nothing like this, so buy a new rk and give back character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teteraxd