Discussion: Botting Risks, Tips and Deletions

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Originally Posted by danielcb

I think free accounts are deleted a lot faster, i had some free accounts time ago and they all got deleted like in 4 days

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Yeah thats what i thought =)

They delete ppl using bot only to take the loot?

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Originally Posted by Jesseh

Ok guys, I`ve spent a little time on this topic compiling basically every ban claim post (including friend's of posters) to try to gather some statistics about deletions.

This isn`t perfect, for sure, but this is what we have by now, if someone has any input feel free to add.

209 posts were "analyzed":

- 172 (82,3%) used MC, 15 (7,2%) said they didn`t used. It wasn`t possible to say about the other 22.
- 79 (37,8%) had more than 1 botting char per acc, including 4 posts who had more than 1 botting char but didn`t used MC.
- 70 (33,5%) got high online times (more than 10h per day or on some days).
- 56 (26,8%) were reported by other players, 21 (10%) said for sure they didn't got reported. Many others didn't knew or didn't said anything about it.
- 66 (31,6%) were hunting on popular spawns (salamanders, coryms, OF, etc). 13 (6,2%) was on always empty spawns, including 2 who said they never saw anyone on the spawn, ever.
- 2 were deleted for using the same registration even without botting
- 8 recently came back to play on the acc, 4 of them using MC, other 4 didnt said or said they didnt used MC.
- 6 were good customers, always buying mounts/pacc/etc.
- 3 saw black HP monsters and got deleted, 2 of them when MCing, other one didn't said anything else.
- 1 was deleted when using looting only, but he was using MC while botting another acc too.
- 1 was deleted while using more randomized scripts (random paths) but with not much randomization inside spawn, and also while using MC.
- 3 was deleted for using either healing/only or anti-idle only. 1 of them while using MC for botting other accs, 1 didn't said if was using anything else, and other one said he didn't use anything at all, only 1 client and windbot with anti-idle (most disturbing case)
- NONE said that got deleted while also using Authenticator

Amount of people who didn't MC, didn't bot more than 1 char per acc, didn't get mass reported and didn't play for a high time: SIX (6)

About those 6:
1 was coming back to play after some time and hunted in a popular spawn but didn't got reported
1 was hunting on popular spawn but didn't got reported AND was a good customer
1 was hunting on popular spawn but nothing else
2 had nothing apparently bad, but didn`t said anything about randomization/authenticator
1 was only training with mad sheep with anti-idle (not easy to explain case, maybe deleted on previous acc's and blacklisted)

So, if I can give any advice: Don't MC while botting, only use 1 botting char per acc, don't hunt more than ~4h per day, avoid getting reported, interact with other people, if you are coming back to play don`t jump right into botting hard, always use authenticator (hypothesis not taken down so far), randomize further your waypoints, way of hunting, spawns, talkings with npcs.

If anyone wants I can upload this spreadsheet too, even though it's somewhat rustic and not too friendly.

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I find this post of @Jesseh (Thanks for compiling all those stadistics) really interesting.. more than 80% of the posted banned accounts were using multiclient.

Does anyone use bot just to heal/other stuff while hunting manually? How is it going for you? Anyone heard of a ban for this reason?

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Originally Posted by Lexmark

I find this post of @Jesseh (Thanks for compiling all those stadistics) really interesting.. more than 80% of the posted banned accounts were using multiclient.

Does anyone use bot just to heal/other stuff while hunting manually? How is it going for you? Anyone heard of a ban for this reason?

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There are reports of people getting deleted on Xeno and on Wind by only healing, however I dont know of anyone who only used heal/loot without MC or having other botting accs, that got deleted. Just see users of blackd safe cheat, a non-smart bot that just presses hotkeys with no intelligence. None reported deleted so far. With wind you could even set a good healer/looter that acts humanly, i.e. casting more manas when no monster around and reducing it's rate when there are monsters, so your char doesn't get stuck.
When I play manually I always use healer/looter/targeting, so I don't get bored, tense or with back pains, I just basically walk around the hunt spot shooting runes, healing, etc.

actually im boting with autoexploring of Mage B**T just 1 account at the same time, and still not deleted xd

In my opinion, it makes for me alot of sense, that CIP bans facc's straight away, since they earn NOTHING on facc's. I understand they will delete pacc's slower, cuz they earn on them, if they delete everybody, they wont make any money and that cant happen ofcourse... i think its pure luck, combined with mass reports etc..

Thank you for your request.

After a thorough investigation of your account we have found the deletion of your account to be incorrect. For this reason your account has been restored. We are very sorry for the inconvenience this has caused.

We have added 4 premium days as compensation for the lost Premium Time.

Kind regards,
Gallafrey
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Originally Posted by grafix

Thank you for your request.

After a thorough investigation of your account we have found the deletion of your account to be incorrect. For this reason your account has been restored. We are very sorry for the inconvenience this has caused.

We have added 4 premium days as compensation for the lost Premium Time.

Kind regards,
Gallafrey
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That`s the acc you told you had botted for like 6h? That probably showed that for that small time their system could get you as a false positive, so they were cautious of deleting you for such small data.

Here is an interesting read, it's kinda old but still worth reading:

http://iseclab.org/papers/botdetection-article.pdf

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Originally Posted by grafix

Thank you for your request.

After a thorough investigation of your account we have found the deletion of your account to be incorrect. For this reason your account has been restored. We are very sorry for the inconvenience this has caused.

We have added 4 premium days as compensation for the lost Premium Time.

Kind regards,
Gallafrey
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@grafix
You could share the text used in his request for review?

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Originally Posted by thiagofskk

@grafix
You could share the text used in his request for review?

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The text really doesn't matter. I got 4 chars deleted, one of them i recover, and the others nop. So i think it's more about lucky

275 ek deleted today
botted at new ek edron hero cave
no windbot addons
mc client yes
minimized no

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Originally Posted by stay golden

275 ek deleted today
botted at new ek edron hero cave
no windbot addons
mc client yes
minimized no

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script from who?

Guys i think european players get more deleted than american and south american, and in my view nowadays there are more american botter community.
What do you think? I,m mad or this can be true, motivated by?

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Originally Posted by devost

script from who?

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garkstals

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Originally Posted by blakw

Pretty sure Cip keep track of computer Hardware ID, maybe spoofing it would help but will interfer with WindBot license lock system.

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if you are sure that cip keep track of computer hardware ID, why not develop a new WindBot license lock system?

ms 280 deleted cya xD

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Originally Posted by baraomcz

if you are sure that cip keep track of computer hardware ID, why not develop a new WindBot license lock system?

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Ask the bot developer.

1. Ban Date? 04/08/15
2. Ever Used Other Bot? Yes, years ago tibiaNG
3. Server Type? Optional
4. Used MC? Yes but main acc is still safe.
5. Minimized Tibia Client? no
6. How Many Bot Chars On The Account? 1
7. Botting Places? [Kazordoon] Minotaurs (200~ left for nosering)
8. Botting Time? at night.
9. Mass Reported? Low Probability | extremly empty server and always alone.

also am i missing something because now when i tried to log in both character and account is gone, am i not supposed to get a "character will be deleted in 30days"-message? just tried to see how high i could get with voucher and facc. so no worries aslong as main dont get deleted thanks to this. :p

Im botting 1 account and manually playing another account, the account im manually playing is this possible to get deleted too? it's never been botted on!

1. 148 EK
2. Ban Date? 10/08/15
3. Ever Used Other Bot? No
4. Server Type?Optional
5. Used MC? Yes WindMC
6. Minimized Tibia Client? No
7. How Many Bot Chars On The Account? 1
8. Botting Places? - Mad Mage Room by Garstal
9. Botting Time? - 8 hours per day
10. Mass Reported?High Probability
11. Screenshot? No
12. Bot was looted 2 mage's cape and then get deleted.

1. 157 EK
2. Ban Date? 20/07/15
3. Ever Used Other Bot? No
4. Server Type?Optional
5. Used MC? Yes WindMC
6. Minimized Tibia Client? No
7. How Many Bot Chars On The Account? 1
8. Botting Places? - Mad Mage Room by Garstal
9. Botting Time? - 8 hours per day
10. Mass Reported?High Probability
11. Screenshot? No
12. Bot was looted 1 mage's cape and then get deleted.

Well you are not mass botter but there is always small risk.

Just got hacked today after installing tibia windbot addons. I was botting on my EK when suddenly got kicked and could not log in again. Got hacked on my 2 accs in less then 30 minutes. watch out guys.

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Originally Posted by fezinruler

Just got hacked today after installing tibia windbot addons. I was botting on my EK when suddenly got kicked and could not log in again. Got hacked on my 2 accs in less then 30 minutes. watch out guys.

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ye, watch out

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Originally Posted by fezinruler

Just got hacked today after installing tibia windbot addons. I was botting on my EK when suddenly got kicked and could not log in again. Got hacked on my 2 accs in less then 30 minutes. watch out guys.

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Other than downloading only from the official website, taking care for not falling into google ads traps, you can just use Authenticator

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Originally Posted by fezinruler

Just got hacked today after installing tibia windbot addons. I was botting on my EK when suddenly got kicked and could not log in again. Got hacked on my 2 accs in less then 30 minutes. watch out guys.

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I was Hacked too after instaling addons ;/

i download from this website huh?

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Originally Posted by Koral

I was Hacked too after instaling addons ;/

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Thats not possible, there is no malicious stuff on wind addons neither Lucas would ever do such thing.

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Originally Posted by Koral

i download from this website huh?

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if u downloaded from this site then u didnt get hacked because of windaddons

So why i got hacked only my money maker another 2 acc is ok i download addon and instal after runing bot and login to tibia after 10~15 min got kick out and password is no correct



Sorry for my English

happend to me to but i got it back. wasnent logged in just changed password.

Just got banned :D
Never 100% afk. Don't get it.

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Originally Posted by JoselitoVL

Just got banned :D
Never 100% afk. Don't get it.

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Being on keyboard won`t mimic human-like behaviour, there are other factors that impact deletion system, including MCing, being repetitive, having low variety of interaction, etc.

Para que les pago windbot para que me hackeen y me roben todo?! No es justo!!!!

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Originally Posted by asfasf

Para que les pago windbot para que me hackeen y me roben todo?! No es justo!!!!

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English In Windbout fourm! i think is the right rules xD

round it up to 20k. This is how real players would do it
Notice "real players" ;(

ive got an account with 50 palladin, never botted, bought pacc, offline training 2 days then start botting, botted like 2-3h and get deleted. I even get notification on email that my account is deleted.

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Originally Posted by frems

ive got an account with 50 palladin, never botted, bought pacc, offline training 2 days then start botting, botted like 2-3h and get deleted. I even get notification on email that my account is deleted.

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Where you botted?

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Originally Posted by Diaxy

Where you botted?

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pirates

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Originally Posted by frems

pirates

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MCed?