Discussion: Botting Risks, Tips and Deletions

1. Ban Date? 09/04/15
2. Ever Used Other Bot? No
3. Server Type? Open Pvp
4. Used MC? Yes windaddons
5. Minimized Tibia Client? No
6. How Many Bot Chars On The Account? 4
7. Botting Places? Elf Of venore
8. Botting Time? 12 hours per char
9. Mass Reported? High Probability tons of reports maybe

i know i was massreported ;s i already got another account like that but i boted it on dark katedral, ill stop boting 4 knight account, i hope dont be deleted on main accounts because i think when u get deleted one account they follow u

lol u all use 4x ek on one acc? I stop using it few 2 years ago :D All my account has 1 character and still all deleted :D

All characters/accounts of my friend was deleted in same time, month or two ago. 2 days ago he back to Tibia, bought bot and create new characters (4 accounts / 1 character per account). 1 of his account was deleted today (after 2 days of botting - 17 lvl) on safe spot (no chance for reports). Funny thing, I gave him my knight which I used for minotaur task and coryms. When I was using this cash maker, everything was okay, he got delete on my knight in same day when his 17 paladin got "caught". Its like curse on him, whenever he back to game, his characters gets delete. Weird, right? CipSoft improved their tool or no clue what happens. My other friend botting without any ban since year, same like me. Our unlucky friend whenever he create character, after few days he gets delete.

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Originally Posted by vetek

lol u all use 4x ek on one acc? I stop using it few 2 years ago :D All my account has 1 character and still all deleted :D

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for mass botter 1 char per acc is tottaly impossible.

Imagine, i'm with 30 mcs at the same time, are 120 knights. Use 120 different accs is ALOT work for nothing.

both methods all are getting delets 1 acc with 1 char or 1 acc with 3~4 char.

No clue why, but double post.

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Originally Posted by KrusT

for mass botter 1 char per acc is tottaly impossible.

Imagine, i'm with 30 mcs at the same time, are 120 knights. Use 120 different accs is ALOT work for nothing.

both methods all are getting delets 1 acc with 1 char or 1 acc with 3~4 char.

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4 char on 1 acc = faster delete :D they find one char from acc and all 4 deleted :D 4 x acc 4 x knight they find one > one is delete ;d

I get today deleted on 430 mage, I was using only healing from windbot....
Hunting manual, anti paral from windbot - utani gran hur.

Winter is coming



Ban Date? 10/04/15
Ever Used Other Bot? No
Server Type? Open Pvp
Used MC? Ye
Minimized Tibia Client? No
How Many Bot Chars On The Account? 0
Botting Places? Not bot, only healing
Botting Time? Playing few hours per day (fighting push war)
Mass Reported? A lot of reports

I'm getting deleted on every new account I create after around 30~ hours.
Not really sure why.
Gonna try some different things like manualling Dawnport and then start botting etc.

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Originally Posted by Laskowski

I get today deleted on 430 mage, I was using only healing from windbot....
Hunting manual, anti paral from windbot - utani gran hur.

Winter is coming



Ban Date? 10/04/15
Ever Used Other Bot? No
Server Type? Open Pvp
Used MC? Ye
Minimized Tibia Client? No
How Many Bot Chars On The Account? 0
Botting Places? Not bot, only healing
Botting Time? Playing few hours per day (fighting push war)
Mass Reported? A lot of reports

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How`s that? Maybe you can get undeleted due to reports not being 100% right.
Also why did you used MC if you do not bot?

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Originally Posted by Jesseh

How`s that? Maybe you can get undeleted due to reports not being 100% right.
Also why did you used MC if you do not bot?

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He was using Mc to bot on other account?
And its not diffrence if you are using healing from windbot or also cavebot. If u want heal only use safe things like blackdsafe cheats or magebot.

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Originally Posted by Laskowski

I get today deleted on 430 mage, I was using only healing from windbot....
Hunting manual, anti paral from windbot - utani gran hur.

Winter is coming



Ban Date? 10/04/15
Ever Used Other Bot? No
Server Type? Open Pvp
Used MC? Ye
Minimized Tibia Client? No
How Many Bot Chars On The Account? 0
Botting Places? Not bot, only healing
Botting Time? Playing few hours per day (fighting push war)
Mass Reported? A lot of reports

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Ok so not even only healbot is safe?.. If I want to hunt without bot with only healbot I should use magebot then?

It would be the best option (but not with dashes etc). Or u can also check blackd safe cheats , it got nice option to turn delay , that its very hard for anybody to see if its bot(f.e. if u walk over fire bombs) .

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Originally Posted by Rose

I'm getting deleted on every new account I create after around 30~ hours.
Not really sure why.
Gonna try some different things like manualling Dawnport and then start botting etc.

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Same like my friend, every account he made, he gets delete on lvl around 20. Even If he hunt in safe spot without chance for single report.

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Originally Posted by Laskowski

I get today deleted on 430 mage, I was using only healing from windbot....
Hunting manual, anti paral from windbot - utani gran hur.

Winter is coming



Ban Date? 10/04/15
Ever Used Other Bot? No
Server Type? Open Pvp
Used MC? Ye
Minimized Tibia Client? No
How Many Bot Chars On The Account? 0
Botting Places? Not bot, only healing
Botting Time? Playing few hours per day (fighting push war)
Mass Reported? A lot of reports

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Contact CipSoft via e-mail, try get undelete. Write that you was hunting only with team, using flash client, few hours per day (not like true botters whole day online) etc.Also mention that delete can be false cuz of reports which you get from your enemy.

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Originally Posted by Hjelpen

Ok so not even only healbot is safe?.. If I want to hunt without bot with only healbot I should use magebot then?

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I think that you can get undeleted due to many reports coming from enemies from war, e-mail CIP. Like woligan said, you can use blackd safe cheats if it`s only for healing, I used it for some time, and there are zero reports of ban. But if he was using to bot on other acc there could be delete problems, like there was with other people, who got deleted by botting other chars, sending money to the main one, using the same IP/graphic card etc.

Hmm but even if someone would be botting some accounts , and one account he would play manualy ( with safe heal bot only) they shouldnt delete all of them. Cause f.e. u can have brother , who is botting , but you are using same computer on which ure playing manually , and u got nothing with botting. So why they should delete you by hardware id ?

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Originally Posted by woligan

Hmm but even if someone would be botting some accounts , and one account he would play manualy ( with safe heal bot only) they shouldnt delete all of them. Cause f.e. u can have brother , who is botting , but you are using same computer on which ure playing manually , and u got nothing with botting. So why they should delete you by hardware id ?

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That's the main reason why I don't think they base deletions on IPs or Hardware IDs.

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Originally Posted by pvzin

That's the main reason why I don't think they base deletions on IPs or Hardware IDs.

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I don't think that they base deletions on IP, because everyone who uses a proxy service is connected to the same IP of a server. But Hardware ID, if CIP really gets it, it's very plausible, because theoretically you can't have 2 persons on same hardware ID at the same time (MCing). It's ok if you have a brother or another acc that you play, but not at the same time in the same PC.

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Originally Posted by pvzin

That's the main reason why I don't think they base deletions on IPs or Hardware IDs.

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Obviously not, for example, they deleted one of my coryms knight about 6 months ago, I was botting few accounts more in same time when I get delete on one of them. Rest knights still botting without any delete. If they would base on IPs or Hardware IDs, rest of my characters would be deleted also.

@Jesseh
mc on other clients, like bot coryms etc
@Hjelpen
idk, it was rly fucking from like 2-3 years only only healbot :S
@Karmazyn
I wrote mail close to yours with my team, no respond yet

well about coryms...
sometimes characters are running together with party, and I get deleted on one of them, and another char can run like 1 week more... so IP shit. Hardware shit.

How about IP/ID creation?
My mate who have stable IP and made me few accounts, all of them get deleted same day and same hour around 50 lvl

FUCKING KURWA SHIT


Dear Tibia player,
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An automatic check of your account has shown that unofficial software was used on it to play Tibia. We have reviewed the deletion carefully, but I am sorry to say we have found it was justified. I am afraid we are not prepared to revoke it. Please understand that we cannot accept any further complaints against the deletion. Moreover, please note that we cannot give you any further details concerning the check procedure. However, rest assured that the deletion of your account was not based exclusively on reports by other players.

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U can use both - "official" client and mc like windaddons at the same time. So its legal for the first account not for another.

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Originally Posted by Laskowski

@Jesseh
mc on other clients, like bot coryms etc
@Hjelpen
idk, it was rly fucking from like 2-3 years only only healbot :S
@Karmazyn
I wrote mail close to yours with my team, no respond yet

well about coryms...
sometimes characters are running together with party, and I get deleted on one of them, and another char can run like 1 week more... so IP shit. Hardware shit.

How about IP/ID creation?
My mate who have stable IP and made me few accounts, all of them get deleted same day and same hour around 50 lvl

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Have you ever transferred money, parceled, etc, from your makers to your main?
If all the chars were created from the same IP there is a possibility of them get banned together. If you MC with one char botting and the other one manual hunting you are still at risk. I never MC because it's somewhat possible to CIP detect multiple HD ID at the same time, and then they can associate it with your main char.

Characters deletions don't always take place at the same time, you got deleted now, maybe your makers will get deleted soon, or already got deleted, or whatever, there is no known rule.

cash sending? no, only putting cash/items on depot. Impossible to follow.

Main account was only manual hunting, no sd chars, no other shits. Only 430 mage.

But that mage exist from like 2005? so, it's like so fucking old times.

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Originally Posted by Jesseh

I don't think that they base deletions on IP, because everyone who uses a proxy service is connected to the same IP of a server. But Hardware ID, if CIP really gets it, it's very plausible, because theoretically you can't have 2 persons on same hardware ID at the same time (MCing). It's ok if you have a brother or another acc that you play, but not at the same time in the same PC.

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MultiClienting is no longer illegal, since Cip itself has 2 tibia clients: C++ and Flashy.
People can and they do use both clients at the same time.
Also, I think you can open a Flash client for each web browser you have on your computer. Haven't tested the last one, though.

Anyways, they won't check HwIDs for MC.

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Originally Posted by Laskowski

cash sending? no, only putting cash/items on depot. Impossible to follow.

Main account was only manual hunting, no sd chars, no other shits. Only 430 mage.

But that mage exist from like 2005? so, it's like so fucking old times.

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BlackD Safe cheats just click hotkeys for u to heal , and u need to determine on which hotkey u got which spell. For example u have set that below 90% hp it will click f2 which u got 'exura'. If u would got 'utani hur' under f2 it would cast 'utani hur' not 'exura'.
Windbot search hotkeys with appriopriate spells by himself , also if u dont got some spell on hotkey, it will write on your keyboard . What mean that windbot integrate into client hard.
I think it will help u in the future.

(I am not advertising other bots, cause i use windbot by myself, i just say how its)

This CipSoft machine is really weird.
I got delete to new account - I made it 1 day ago. Downport - 100% manually. From 8lvl to 10lvl 100% manual on trolls.
So I went to train on mad sheep. I used a script where was only anti-idle from time to time the character was moving randomly (5-10minutes).
After 4 hours of training I got deletion.

How it is possible? O.o
At that time, I had just turned on the one client, without any mc.
Hoooow? :O

Just a note that I think anyone is counting. Time online is different from stamina. Another thing I do not know if it's relevant, my network ip is static, but before the internet go to the computer, it goes through the router, and the router renames with a new IP (DHCP), have the option of 50 ips, and I've set to renew every 1 minute.

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Apenas uma nota que eu acho que ninguém está contando. Tempo online é diferente de resistência. Outra coisa que eu não sei se ele é relevante, meu ip rede é estático, mas antes que a internet vá para o computador, ele passa através do roteador, eo roteador renomeia com um novo IP (DHCP), tem a opção de 50 ips, e eu configurei para renovar a cada 1 minuto.

So, only things I have in mind is the problem with MCing from same Hardware, it's not illegal to MC using flash and C++ but how would you hunt with it? You can only hunt rotworms or rats with 2 chars at the same time, not strong monsters.

Other possibility is getting mass reported and they checked you. In that case you was really guilty by MCing other char and they won't revoke your ban.

Another thing is, healing isn't fully random, because we almost never use a exura vita instead of a exura gran if $hppc between 80 to 85, it's a bot, it's automatic. If cip really wants they can detect botters from non-botters with ease, even after we randomize basically everything we can. It's easy to distinguish a botter from a non-botter when you see one.

I like blackd safe cheats too, but I don't use it now because I bot with windbot with total randomized scripts,using only 1 acc, 1 char, for 4-6h a day, if I get deleted I was wrong about this, but so far it seems to be safest method.

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Originally Posted by Sandwich Eater

This CipSoft machine is really weird.
I got delete to new account - I made it 1 day ago. Downport - 100% manually. From 8lvl to 10lvl 100% manual on trolls.
So I went to train on mad sheep. I used a script where was only anti-idle from time to time the character was moving randomly (5-10minutes).
After 4 hours of training I got deletion.

How it is possible? O.o
At that time, I had just turned on the one client, without any mc.
Hoooow? :O

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Have you ever been deleted before on the same PC?

more than 30 accounts deleted this week, and guess what?
registered accounts are safe...
im not telling register ur accounts gona SAVE you to get deleted but happened with me =]

One thing I was wondering.

Your deleted chars use Tibia Authenticator? I use it on my main acc.

What are the ban rates for using/not using Authenticator, maybe you guys who got deleted can say something?

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Have you ever been deleted before on the same PC?

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This is my first delete, never before :/

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Originally Posted by Elgu

more than 30 accounts deleted this week, and guess what?
registered accounts are safe...
im not telling register ur accounts gona SAVE you to get deleted but happened with me =]

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you can't have mroe than 1 acc botted on same registration, otherwise, 1 deleted with registration = rest insta deleted as well (with same registration).

Na not using tibia auth~

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Originally Posted by Sandwich Eater

This is my first delete, never before :/

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Have you been training mlvl also? If yes then please show paremeters (conditions) or script that you used.

Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by dawacwindbota

Have you been training mlvl also? If yes then please show paremeters (conditions) or script that you used.

Thanks in advance.

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Bro... that was script with just anti-idle time for time (5-10minutes) , nothing more.
Without any MC and others tibia client. One client, one windbot and one presistent anti-idle :/

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Originally Posted by Laskowski

you can't have mroe than 1 acc botted on same registration, otherwise, 1 deleted with registration = rest insta deleted as well (with same registration).

Na not using tibia auth~

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i got deleted on all my UNregistered accounts
the other accounts are registered on diff places and names and they're safe atm.
cipsoft just deleted my account groups (diff accounts but botting at same place and sharing equipment, using similar email, account name and shit).
i never used parcel or bank transfers. i think they using hardware IP to get me, so im sure ill get deleted on all my accounts soon or later.

ill create a new army and ill try avoid somethings:
similar email, account name, character name and ill just register all my new accounts and wait for results...

peace guys!

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Originally Posted by Sandwich Eater

Bro... that was script with just anti-idle time for time (5-10minutes) , nothing more.
Without any MC and others tibia client. One client, one windbot and one presistent anti-idle :/

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So basically, you was just moving around (1 sqm?) and after 4 hours you've got a ban/delete? Have you been boting for first 8 levels ? Also how many characters do you have in total?

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Originally Posted by Sandwich Eater

Bro... that was script with just anti-idle time for time (5-10minutes) , nothing more.
Without any MC and others tibia client. One client, one windbot and one presistent anti-idle :/

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Well, that being your only char with no apparent flaws, I don't know what to expect, maybe your other acc's are going to get deleted sometime soon (if you use windbot on them) or CIP really got a new special client check,previously undetected by bot makers/programmers that simply detect if you have windbot/other bots running and it's all over for a while for botters.

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Originally Posted by Jesseh

Well, that being your only char with no apparent flaws, I don't know what to expect, maybe your other acc's are going to get deleted sometime soon (if you use windbot on them) or CIP really got a new special client check,previously undetected by bot makers/programmers that simply detect if you have windbot/other bots running and it's all over for a while for botters.

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who knows, feels like it sometimes with the delets going on.