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Minimum:
OS: Windows XP SP3
Processor: 1.5 GHz Pentium 4 or equivalent with SSE2 instruction set support
Memory: 1GB RAM
Graphics: 128MB; if DirectX 9c or OpenGL 2.1 are not supported, only software renderer mode is available
Hard Drive: min. 150MB
Recommended:
OS: System: Windows 7 or newer
Processor: 2.5 GHz Intel Core i3 processor or equivalent
Memory: 4GB RAM
Graphics: 512MB; OpenGL 2.1 support
Hard Drive: min. 150MB
lol, its like they know you need decent amount of ram to bot several chars
If I wont be able to massbotting im going to kill myself, because I just spent 500$ dolars at my computer to massbot and make good profit from that... LOL :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Connor
"However, it's not just XenoBot. This will be the doom of WindBot, MageBot, iBot, and every other bot. This isn't an update in the way most people think of them; it's completely new architecture. Every memory value, function signature, data structure, and little chunk of assembly code is different. This means that every bot will have to undergo a major overhaul, which can amount to thousands of hours of work, in order to function with the new client. In some cases, such as with XenoBot and likely others, it's safe to say that writing a completely new bot will actually prove easier than adapting the existing bot to the new client." - DarkstaR (Creator of XenoBot) ( Original post by DarkstaR HERE )"
You just missed the link hahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by ratrider
Don't think it will be the end of WindBot, I think of it as a cool deadline for Wind 3's release LOOOOOOOOOOOL
huashusahhu, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by RoxZin xD
End of WindBot 3 before it was even released. Wow. Bad timing o.o
Lucas terra must be mad as fuck. All hundreds/thousands of hours to build WindBot 3 and now it will not work in new client.
Like DarkstaR said, every bot must be re-created from scratch.
This will 100% be the end of iBot/Redbot/Blackd (maybe)/TibiaAuto/Magebot and other bots like that. Because most of their admins dont know how to program, and they stole a lot from TibiaAPI.
Only DarkstaR and Lucas Terra are good enough to rewrite a completely new bot from scratch.
I think DarkstaR will win the race because he works as a reverse engineer for a great company IRL.
But this will be interesting to see.
Maybe a completely new bot will rise now too, from a completely new guy that has not been heard of.
It is safe to say that it will take MONTHS to create a new STABLE bot with features like we have today.
It is like we are going back in time to TibiaBot NG now. It will maybe take years to adapt a bot completely to the new client.
So the botting community will probably lose a lot of players now since there will be at least 6-12 months without botting.
And then they must also test the bots so it wont be instant-deletions. Wow, it's going to be a lot of changes.
I just hope DarkstaR and Lucas Terra feel motivated enough to continue developing.
They lost a lot of time for their current bots. And as many people maybe quit, they maybe don't see it as profitable to spend that much time making a new version of the bots.
Hoping for the best.
Maybe flash client would be easier to make a bot for? But it's such an unstable client :P
Since its just beta (already public so all bot creators got way to access/test it, and they already said it won't be relased soon, bet that for 20th anniversary, have like 8months to do it:)Quote:
Originally Posted by ratrider
i think you guys are panicking before the real panic time.
As i've said in chat this i'snt even a antibot measure, and windbot 3 features have nothing to do with how the addresses work. Im sure if the code is written correctly once they figer out all the structures the windbot 3 will work the same way,that doesnt mean bot makers wont waste thousands of hours trying to find these new addresses but i dont think it will be the last hard time they'll have in the near future.
Direct quote from Tibia 11 Faq:
"Besides big topics such as our continuous fight against botting, for example, Tibia 11's further development, the winter update and the preparations for Tibia's 20th birthday will keep us busy during the rest of the year."
I really believe that they will add alot of shit to make bots have a hard time, i can see the end of comercial bots for some months if they go full force on the anti botting side.
And for the people that will say, tibia will be dead without bots... im sure they'll find a way to earn money, open your tibia store and look how it has changed in the last month :).
The new client is completely new, from scratch. So yes, they will need to make completely new bots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlockx
I wouldnt be so sure about that, the beta phase time will be more than enough to come up with a solution to current Windbot and who knows Windbot 3 may finally arrive :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hamiltonx
Rest assured that the people behind the scenes are already looking into this.
It's not like it will be a 100% different game. It will have same engine, same mechanics, probably even same coding structure. Heck, it's CipSoft we're talking about. Don't worry, in Lucas we trust.Quote:
Originally Posted by hamiltonx
It's not, haha. You can already download beta and check the structure yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoxZin xD
And if you have a beta-invited account you can login and check even more things.
It is completely re-made from scratch. From bottom to top. Completely remade.
If you dont have beta access, you can check Josha534's stream on twitch. he will stream a lot from it.
and he streamed last night, https://www.twitch.tv/joshwa534/
he is mod on xeno forums
recording:
https://www.twitch.tv/joshwa534/v/61675434
Not the first time they make big changes on the client, and all of them have been reversed. Will surely take more work than a common update, but it is surely reversable. Once again, it's CipSoft we're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by hamiltonx
This time CipSoft actually made a completely new game from scratch.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoxZin xD
Just download the client http://static.tibia.com/download/Tibia_Setup.exe
And look at the folder it installs to.
Look at all new files.
You can reverse engineer some of it without logging in, and look at how it is structured.
It is like a new game, honestly. Nothing except the graphic design is the same. Nothing.
I can't, I suck at reverse engineering, I could just find simple pointers and static things, I couldn't even deal with HP/MP values, imagine dealing with the whole client LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by hamiltonx
i think you didnt understand what people meant... let me explainQuote:
Originally Posted by hamiltonx
Lets talk about the targeting system
way way back it was a structure like this
0x0 you
0x1 player 1
0x2 player 2
now
0x1 + 75 + 10 + ... (you get it pointers...) you
new client
no idea...
but the functions will be the same basically since the way that manual players attack is still the same (move the mouse to the battle or screen and click), the only thing that will change is how they will be able to get those values (screen position, battle structure).
As i said thats only valid for this first client... if they add antibot measures that i think they ill thats another thing... but we are talking about the client that they presented to beta testers now.
Windbot 3.0 coming out soon? After what 3 years of waiting? :D Buhauha now it's worthless :/
If it's true what Darkstar of xeno said.
You can expect Wind 3 to fully work with Tibia 11. At least that's the plan. We're at 2.7.8 still, so we got time :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Benya
WindBot is not going away any time soon.
For those who are hungry on informations, you can check what libraries are used in the new client.
http://pastebin.com/k1mT0Pr8
Some speculations that can be made with above license:
- they are using Just-in-time compilation which may, in some way, prevent bots
Greetings,
Jakub
niga you all sccaared n shit loll
do not underestimate the God Lucas Terra, faithless!!
The tibia API its just a library of contents, anyone that knows how to program a bot and disable the aslr can make their own api.
some people dont understand what an api is, its just a help kit.
if address r43thuy9j85tg43y8h0953ygu09j8h5hgqu098 (this code is called rubish its famous on 3016) its stored in player.container then the api has the info to code it.
bah i dont want to explain it as it is thats just the idea of how an api works you can see a bunch of them, paypal, amazon, google, tibia, you can read more about it on tpforums.
No, We will not have to re-write the whole bot.Quote:
Originally Posted by hamiltonx
The thing we need to re-write is how the bot gathers the necessary info, and that is about "it", but yes, it is still a massive job.
How Windbot interacts with the client won't have to be changed that much, compared to, f.e Xenobot.
How Windbot 3 AI works won't have to be changed much at all.
So, please, stop spreading stuff that you know nothing about other then what you have read in Darkstar's thread on Xenobot forum.
Most of what he wrote do not apply to Windbot in the same way as Xenobot.
https://www.tibiacast.com/forum/disc...d-of-tibiacast
Running Tibiacast for the last 7 years has been fun, educational and at times stressful. However, in the recent years our lives have changed. Both of us now have other full time jobs and our interest for Tibia itself has waned.Due to the nature of our service we have been playing a constant game of catch up with CipSoft. Whenever they have made changes to Tibia, we've had to match them in Tibiacast. It's always been a precarious situation, and we've often worried that we'd be faced with an update that would be too difficult to support, and it seems that has now happened.
Tibia 11 brings some major changes and we've concluded that we'll not be able to support them. We simply don't have enough time right now in our lives to make it happen.
We have decided to close Tibiacast on June 30th, or when Tibia 11 replaces the old client, whichever comes first. The website will remain online to host the recordings for another 2 months to allow everyone to download and convert their old recordings.
We will continue to sell 1 month premium subscriptions via PayPal until June 1.
Those with premium time remaining when Tibiacast closes will be refunded.
No doubt there will be many questions. We'll try to answer them as best we can.
Thank you for this time.
Alexander and John
We can't expect that windbot 3 come. Srsly if so fra it wasnt released, a whole new data structure, memory addresses etc, kkkkkkkkkkk. This new update is the end of an era. Let's just hope a new bot come :)
No, it isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by hyderascripts
Read SuNe post.
It is exectly like Hydera said, everything from tibia's data will be diffrent, that means all current bots "died", nothing else to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakw
A project only "die" when there is no further action to be made on it, that isnt the case of Windbot, it is going to be updated to the new Tibia Client (just like any other regular update although this one requires more work and may lead to the public release of WB3).Quote:
Originally Posted by Warior
what remains is to get level before stopping
The "project" dying like after there's no one handable to update it. That's case of Windbot or any other bot at the moment, it will take months to get all work again, (few pages before some user posted how tibia wil be coded nowdays) I have no idea how WB3 is programmed, tbh I really doubt it ever exist, anyway it have to be changed same like everything else, I was laugh a lot while a guy "Sune" posted, they have to get all "doors ids" (the reason of W3 delay elease) which is kinda funny for poeple who know about they're talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by blakw
@secod_post
That was about rope spots xyz locations etc which for me is kinda funny even lot more :p
Which means, that you got no idea how the AI, and the pathfinder in WB3 works, and for us that know what we're talking about, you're kinda funny ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Warior
(Just to clarify, the door/rope spot thing was to gather info for the internal map for wind 3 to make the pathfinding to work, not the bot core itself, since that was already done)
And like i said in my other post, Sure, we got a huge job to update it, but no, it is not like writing a whole new bot.
Besides, Beta client will be in beta mostly for months to come (or well atm the beta is closed), so the old client will still be out there.
Yes it existQuote:
Originally Posted by Warior
https://forums.tibiawindbot.com/show...dBot-3-teasers
I'm more worried about the system requeriments, about windbot I know Lucas will find a way.
Min system req is about the same as it is now tho, so i wouldent be so worries about it unless your running a potato computerQuote:
Originally Posted by vinizera
This made me laugh, haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by SuNe
Anyways, I trust on this staff. Windbot is the best bot I've used so far and I believe they'll work around this situation.
Oh, and by the way, TibiaCast and BBot already said they won't work/update after Tibia 11 release, hue!
Was the best vot ever i've used too. But, i still don't believe Lucas will handle a stable version for new client. Since he can't even released WB3. (that he told first time yeaaaaaaaaaaaaars ago.)
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Originally Posted by pvzin
He can, don't worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by hyderascripts
The delay for WB3 has nothing to do that he can or not, its been delayed due to the huge amount of work he is doing on it alone, while balancing his time with family, school and programing, and that his a damn perfectionist who don't want to release a flawed Beta for some reason (DUh)
I've been using WB3 ONLY for the past 2 years or so, and it is working great.